Friday, September 7, 2007

J12 Superleggera Chanel Horlogerie

I stumbled across this beautiful Chanel mens watch. Its just so elegant. The price is €4900, €1400 more than the Dior Homme Black time. Which one do you like?

29 comments:

alex said...

dior ones. if i really have to choose between the two of them. but honestly, they both are just fashion watch...

monsieur AG said...

i do know that they are not from a traditional watch company but the are actually using good movements from a traditional watch company. Design from a fashion house + movements from a watch company = Perfect!~

yoyo said...

i agree with alex. i personally believe that a guy should not be wearing a watch from a fashion house, even if its hermes. there are a lot of great designs from watch companies to pick from.

monsieur AG said...

what do u suggest that i should get?

philippe said...

Chanel definitely...

yoyo said...

well theres a lot to choose from. have you decided on a black or white dial? do you want a chronograph? here are a few ideas in that price range:

http://www.lacotedesmontres.com/IWC-IW371701-PdN.htm

http://www.lacotedesmontres.com/Panerai-PAM-00119-PdN.htm

http://www.lacotedesmontres.com/Prix-du-neuf-et-tarif-de-la-montre-Bell-Ross-Vintage-120-Black-White-leather-strap-No_3593.htm

http://www.lacotedesmontres.com/Prix-du-neuf-de-la-montre-Jaeger-LeCoultre-Master-Compressor-Chronograph-Lady-174-84-05-No_5553.htm

http://www.lacotedesmontres.com/Chronographe-Suisse-Cie-CG-52301-BS-AB-PdN.htm

monsieur AG said...

Chanel is really nice but i am still trying to find out what movements are they using...

monsieur AG said...

hey yoyo, thanks for the link.

i was actually looking at Panerai. Their watches are simple and nice, really classic. I was actually considering the Automatic Luminor Marina.

alex said...

they are just using a $70usd ETA movements, produced by Swatch group company.

All the fashion house brands use this movement, so does the lower end panerai, cartier etc.

My suggestion, get a vintage rolex. Like the one Hedi uses. Its the watch that inspired the dior watch in the first place.

alex said...

they are not using a good traditional watch company movement actually. they are using the basic standard ones.

i have a panerai, and imo they dont go well with dior hommes aesthetic and slim silhouette. As the watch dial is huge and attention grabbing (meaning Italian style, loud. which goes well with your dolces, cavallis and perhaps A&F)

While dior is more bout slim, subtle but refined details. Which i think would suit rolex more, but if you have the cash to burn, then maybe get a patek, the aquanaut or nautilus. Both have good resale value if you decide to sell them. If not, get a Audemars piguet royal oak, the normal one and not the chronos. Very simple and minimalist.

alex said...

if you decide to get a panerai, make sure its a 44mmm. Dont ever get the 40mm (for luminor model that is). For radiomir, it depends on the model. Hope that helps.

monsieur AG said...

a $70usd ETA movements?!?! are you sure Chanel is using that?!? And Panerai is using this too?!? You myst be joking, Panerai have their own movements isn't it? I am pretty sure they don't use swatch.

Are you sure that Hedi wears rolex? Wasn't he wearing a Patek?

monsieur AG said...

Well. everyone has their own preferences. I actually do think that Panerai looks nice with slim silhouette. Panerai watches are not too big as compared to the others...

Audemars piguet royal oak is a very nice watch...the only thing is the price tag! hahaha...it gonna cost tens of thousands...

Funny. Paneri is much simpler and minimalist than both of the watch that you mentioned. AP is definitely larger than Panerai and Patek has definitely more details than Panerai...

monsieur AG said...

For your information, Luminor does have the 44mm. The matter of fact is that most of them are 44mm, only a few are not.

By the way, i already have the exact model number of the one that i am considering...hehe

alex said...

ETA movement. Yes, definately. You just go to the cortina or sincere and ask the sales. They should be able to tell you what movement these watches are using.

Panerai also uses ETA movements, unless its a special limited edition watch, which could cost around $10000 or above. Panerai just started making their own movement from last year, and its only for one or two premium models.

Hedi wears a vintage rolex, check the group. I remembered someone posting the exact watch's reference number.

As I said again, it depends on the model actually when comparing AP and panerai. Im talking bout the 36-38mm royak oak, not offshore. The only details are the grids on the dial. I'll try to look for the pic of the watch and post it to you later so you have a better idea.

alex said...

heres the AP, but for the size of the watch, its better for you to go and try it on at your local dealer:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Audemars-Piguet-Royal-Oak-Selfwinding-NEW_W0QQitemZ280149498550QQihZ018QQcategoryZ31387QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

monsieur AG said...

I am not sure what movement is Chanel using but i am sure its automatic movement. Correct me if i am wrong but i thought ETA only produces Mechanical and Quartz movement?

I do not know if Panerai are using any ETA movements but i am sure that almost all the Panerai are using their own trademark movement. For example, the Luminor Marina Automatic which i am interested is uising their own Panerai OP III calibre.

Anyway, Dior Black Time is using Zenith movements. There is also a new Dior Homme watch in black too, just without the cronograph...

monsieur AG said...

hmmm...i don't really like this AP.

alex said...

80% of the watches like cartier, chronoswiss, panerai, corum etc are all getting their movements from ETA (swatch group). ETA produces a numerous of movements, quartz, manual, automatic etc.

Yes, OP III is a supposedly a 'modified' ETA. So that people will think exactly like you, that is that panerai produces its own movement. The local watch dealer should be able to explain to you more in details.

Ive heard of the dior black time using zenith, but i think theres only a few of this and the price is around 10000usd (more than a rolex daytona). The ones which are under $4000USD uses an ETA, be it the chronos or the basic one.

The AP is something that will grow on to you eventually. At least it did, in me that is:)

monsieur AG said...

Only a few of the Dior Black Time is using Zenith? Shouldn't all be using Zenith?

I like AP but only offshore series...i am not so interested about the rest.

alex said...

a few of the chronos were using zenith, when they first launched the watch back in 2005 if i remembered. Those cost around 10000USD approx. But the simple ones, and the chronos today arent made by zenith.

The price wouldnt be right with the chronos from zenith. They are using the same movements as those cartier pashas chronos, thats why price wise, they are bout the same.

alex said...

shouldnt be suprised with the movements cost. As the infamous 5 time zone by Jacob & co thats asking for more than 10000USD is using a 25USD quartz movement. Also by ETA. But rest assured that the movements use for the swatch watches and ETAs are completely different. Just like the difference between a VW and Porsche, same parent company, different manufacturer.

alex said...

i like the offshore, just that i have a small wrist, which i assume you do since we wear around the same size. Thats why i reccommend watch that will fit me.

And i dont like the idea with big watches as it stands out on its own, and very attention grabbing. I kinda like a watch thats part of your whole outfit, that will compliment your look; not something that take away the whole outfit and take the attention all by itself. This is usually the case, when wearing big chunky watches like Roger Dubuis, AP offshores, Panerais and those big watches.

Dont get me wrong, i used to wear it like that too, thats how i noticed no matter what i wear, its the watch that usually get the attention.

monsieur AG said...

That really make sense!! Thanks for the information! Are you working in this industry or you're just a watch collector? How do you know so much about watches?

alex said...

thanks, just dont want somebody to drop a few ks into a watch and regret it:)

No, i have some friends who work in the industry, but i have a passion in watches as well. Theres tons of infos you could get in Singapore. I suggest you go to monsters time at far east or passion watch at funan. they have some rare watches occasionally.

Theres a few more others but i think the aforementioned brands suits your style best. Hope that helps

monsieur AG said...

once again, thanks alot!

I wouldn't be buying so soon. I'll probably get one at the end of the year or something...but i am keep my options open

RDF showroom said...

Hi alex & monsieur,

Have you guys found the pic of hedi wearing his rolex? i ve spent all night searching but no result.. can u guys post a link for me? thx in advance.

alan

monsieur AG said...

Hi Alan, i do not have any info about Hedi's Rolex...maybe Alex could give u some information

invincta said...

beautiful watch

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